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<p>Der Beitrag <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.interkulturellhochbegabte.de/australia-giftedness-from-an-indigenous-perspective/">AUSTRALIA: Giftedness from an Indigenous Perspective</a> erschien zuerst auf <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.interkulturellhochbegabte.de">Intercultural Network For The Highly Gifted</a>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="right"><span style="font-size: 42pt; color: #b85e32; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong>Giftedness</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="center"><span style="color: #b85e32; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong><span style="font-size: 24pt;">Prof. Dr Wilma Vialle</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="center"><span style="color: #b85e32; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong><span style="font-size: 24pt;">&amp; Çiğdem Gül</span></strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #3366ff;"><strong><span style="font-size: 24pt;">Pictures thanks to Giovanna Aryafara,</span></strong></span><span style="color: #b85e32; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong><span style="font-size: 24pt;"><br />
</span></strong></span><span style="color: #b85e32; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong><span style="font-size: 24pt;">© Courtesy of Giovanna Aryafara </span></strong></span></p>
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<p align="right"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">Picture &#8222;A child from The Hamar Tribe&#8220; thanks to © 2019 Giovanna Aryafara &#8211; Courtesy of Giovanna Aryafara (Bali, Indonesia)</span></p>
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<p align="right"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Written by Çiğdem Gül </span></strong></p>
<p align="right"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Wuppertal, Germany &#8211; September 03, 2022</span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">In the highly gifted landscape and in the world of the highly sensitive and synaesthetic persons, there is a wide choice of ethnic and cultural diversity. While giftedness, by definition, exists equally in all populations, we are still a long way from recognising this in practice. Although it is universally accepted that gifted individuals are found amongst people from all cultural, ethnic and socio-economic groups, there is not enough first-hand information globally, how indigenous people define the terms intelligence and giftedness. Also, how they live their intelligence and giftedness in interacting with other tribal members in everyday life.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><span style="color: #b85e32;"><strong>Prof. Dr. Wilma Vialle’s e-book »Giftedness from an Indigenous Perspective« </strong></span> examines the concept of giftedness from the perspective of the natives in Australia in the tribes Mäori and Navajo. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;" align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 20px;">You can read the complete e-book »<span style="color: #0000ff;">Giftedness from an Indigenous Perspective</span>« by Prof. Dr. Wilma Vialle for free, <a href="http://www.interkulturellhochbegabte.de/wp-content/uploads/Prof-Dr-Wilma-Vialle_Complete-book_Giftedness-from-an-Indigenous-Perspective.pdf" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline; color: #0000ff;">HERE</span></strong></a>:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;" align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 20px;">You can buy the book online from the website of »<span style="color: #0000ff;">The Australian Association for the Education of the Gifted and Talented</span>« <a href="https://www.aaegt.net.au/store/Giftedness-from-an-Indigenous-Perspective-p375030535" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;">HERE</span></span></strong></a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;" align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 20px;">For more information on the website of »The Australian Association for the Education of the Gifted and Talented« (AAEGT), <a href="https://www.aaegt.net.au/" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;">HERE</span></span></strong></a></span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"><strong>About Prof. Dr Wilma Vialle</strong></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">&#8222;Wilma Vialle is a Professor in Educational Psychology and Associate Dean in the Faculty of Social Sciences at the University of Wollongong, Australia. She teaches subjects on gifted education and has published extensively in this field, including a text on ‘Educating the Gifted Learner’ co-authored with Professor Karen Rogers. Her research interests are predominantly concerned with giftedness and talent development and she is particularly interested in issues of social justice. She is the chief editor of the journal ‘Talent Development and Excellence’ and is on the editorial board of several international journals. Wilma is also on the Executive Board of the International Research Association for Talent Development and Excellence (IRATDE).&#8220; Source: <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://www.iratdetaipei.org/static_page.php?page_id=41">http://www.iratdetaipei.org/static_page.php?page_id=41</a></strong></span></span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"><strong>AAEGT &#8211; Australian Association for the Education of the Gifted and Talented</strong></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">The Australian Association for the Education of the Gifted and Talented (AAEGT) is committed to furthering the education of gifted and talented students across Australia. Established in 1985, the AAEGT currently serves members from a range of backgrounds. The members are parents, educators, academics/researchers and other professionals whose family or work life brings them in contact with gifted children.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">You can read more about AAEGT, </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://gaw.aaegt.net.au" target="_blank">HERE</a></span></strong></span></span><br />
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<p align="center"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">Picture &#8222;ABBA &#8211; Mursi Tribe&#8220; thanks to © Giovanna Aryafara &#8211; Courtesy of Giovanna Aryafara (Bali, Indonesia)</span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Die Vereinten Nationen </strong>(United Nations Organization, UNO)<strong> haben die frühere Bezeichnung »Ureinwohner« durch »indigene Völker« </strong>(&#8222;indigenous peoples«)<strong> ersetzt.</strong> Der Begriff »Indigene Völker« wurde erstmals 1986 vom UN-Sonderberichterstatter José Martínez-Cobo verwendet und bedeutet in etwa  »in ein Land geboren«. Eine völkerrechtlich verbindliche Definition gibt es nicht. Nachzulesen ist in einem <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://www.bpb.de/politik/hintergrund-aktuell/142194/indigene-bevoelkerungen">Beitrag vom 5.8.2019</a></strong></span> der <strong>Bundeszentrale für politische Bildung</strong>, dass »als<strong> </strong>indigene Völker meist die Nachfahren der Erstbewohnerinnen und -bewohner einer Region bezeichnet werden, welche das gegenwärtige Territorium eines Landes bereits bewohnten, bevor Menschen mit einer anderen Kultur oder aus anderen Teilen der Welt dort ankamen. In vielen Fällen unterwarfen oder vertrieben die Neuankömmlinge die dort ansässigen Völker und versetzten sie durch Eroberung, Besiedlung oder mit anderen Mitteln in eine untergeordnete oder koloniale Situation. Von der nicht-indigenen Bevölkerung eines Landes unterscheiden sich Indigene in der Regel durch eine eigene Kultur z.B. in Sprache, Religion oder Gesellschaftsorganisation. Eine Bevölkerungsgruppe gilt zudem als indigen, wenn sie sich selbst als solche beschreibt (Selbstidentifikation) und von der Gemeinschaft der indigenen Völker anerkannt wird (Fremdidentifikation).« </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Die Vereinten Nationen (UN) schätzen, dass <strong>weltweit 370 Millionen Indigene mit 5000 verschiedenen Kulturen in etwa 90 Staaten</strong> leben. Sie machen knapp <strong>fünf Prozent der Weltbevölkerung</strong> aus. <strong>Von den 7000 gesprochenen Sprachen weltweit werden mehr als 4000 von indigenen Völkern gesprochen. </strong></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Die mit Abstand größte Gruppe besteht aus über 100 Millionen <strong><span style="color: #333333;">in Indien</span></strong> lebenden <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">Adivasi</span>,</strong> eine Sammelbezeichnung für verschiedene indigene Völker – dies geht aus einer Volkszählung in Indien aus dem Jahr 2011 hervor. Eine weitere große Gruppe stellen die <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">Amazigh (Berber)</span></strong> mit zehn bis 30 Millionen, die vor allem <strong>in den nordafrikanischen Ländern Marokko, Algerien, Tunesien, Libyen und Mauretanien</strong> leben. Bekannte indigene Völker sind auch die <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">Samen</span></strong> <strong>in Teilen Skandinaviens</strong>, die <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">Mansen</span></strong> <strong>in Westsibirien</strong>, die <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">Maori</span></strong> <strong>in Neuseeland</strong>, die <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">Ainu</span></strong> <strong>in Japan</strong>, die <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">Uiguren</span></strong> <strong>in China</strong>, die <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">Aceh</span></strong> <strong>in Indonesien</strong>, die <span style="color: #b85e32;"><strong>Hmong</strong></span> <strong>in Laos</strong>, die <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">San (Buschmänner)</span></strong> <strong>im südlichen Afrika</strong>, die <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">Quechua</span></strong> <strong>in Peru und Bolivien</strong>, die <span style="color: #b85e32;"><strong>Maya</strong></span> <strong>in Guatemala und Mexiko</strong>, die <span style="color: #b85e32;"><strong>Dineh (Navajo)</strong></span> <strong>in Nordamerika</strong>, die <strong><span style="color: #b85e32;">Inuit</span></strong> <strong>in Kanada</strong> oder die <span style="color: #b85e32;"><strong>Aborigines</strong></span> <strong>in Australien</strong>.&#8220; Siehe: <strong><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://amnesty-indigene.de/begriff/">https://amnesty-indigene.de/begriff/</a></span></strong></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">In der Hochbegabtenlandschaft gibt es eine große Auswahl an ethnischer und kultureller Vielfalt. Obwohl Begabung per Definition in allen Bevölkerungsgruppen gleichermaßen vorhanden ist, sind wir noch weit davon entfernt, dies in der Praxis zu erkennen. Obwohl allgemein bekannt ist, dass in allen kulturellen, ethnischen und sozioökonomischen Gruppen hohe Potentiale und Hochbegabte zu finden sind, gibt es weltweit keine ausreichenden Informationen aus erster Hand, wie die Ureinwohner die Begriffe Intelligenz und Begabung definieren. Auch, wie sie ihre Intelligenz und Begabung im Umgang mit ihren Stammesmitgliedern im Alltag leben. Über meinen indigenen Interviewpartner Lorenzo Gill, Angehörige des Stammes der Kogi Kultur in Sierra Nevada, Student und Stiftungsgründer in Bogotá/Kolumbien, weiß ich, dass dort für die Indigenen keine Begriffe für Intelligenz und Hochbegabung existieren. </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Prof. Dr. Wilma Vialles E-Book »Hochbegabung aus indigener Sicht« </strong></span> (Originaltitel: Giftedness from an Indigenous Perspective) untersucht das Konzept der Hochbegabung aus der Sicht der Indigenen in Australien, vor allem bei den Stämmen Mäori und Navajo. Ihr E-Book ist komplett einlesbar und herunterzuladen auf der Homepage der &#8222;Australischen Vereinigung für die Ausbildung von Begabten und Talenten&#8220; (AAEGT). Diese  engagiert sich für die Förderung der Ausbildung von begabten und talentierten Studenten in ganz Australien. Das 1985 gegründete AAEGT dient derzeit Mitgliedern mit unterschiedlichem Hintergrund. Die Mitglieder sind Eltern, Erzieher, Wissenschaftler und andere Fachkräfte, deren Familie oder Arbeitsleben sie mit begabten Kindern in Kontakt bringt.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;" align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 18px;">Das vollständige E-Book »<span style="color: #0000ff;">Giftedness from an Indigenous Perspective</span>« von der Professorin Frau Wilma Vialle kannst Du kostenlos <a href="http://www.interkulturellhochbegabte.de/wp-content/uploads/Prof-Dr-Wilma-Vialle_Complete-book_Giftedness-from-an-Indigenous-Perspective.pdf" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline; color: #0000ff;">HIER</span></strong></a> lesen.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;" align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 18px;">Für mehr Informationen, siehe <a href="https://www.aaegt.net.au/" target="_blank"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;">HIER</span></span></strong></a>, AAEGT.</span></p>
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<p align="right"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">Picture &#8222;ANOUK &#8211; Young Suri Girl&#8220; thanks to © Giovanna Aryafara &#8211; Courtesy of Giovanna Aryafara (Bali, Indonesia)</span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"><strong>About Giovanna Aryafara</strong></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Giovanna Aryafara is an Australian photographer living in Bali. She is best known for her mesmerising portraits of Indigenous people from many corners of the globe. The Suri, Kara and other remote tribes of the Omo Valley in Ethiopia are fabled by their intricate face and body painting, floral headpieces and vibrant beadwork.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">&#8222;Giovanna Aryafara exhibited her works in Australia, Bali, Brazil, and the African Photography Festival in New York 2018. This year 2019 she will exhibiting at ‘Atlas of Humanity’ Paris and Italy. She travels to India and Ethiopia yearly.&#8220;</span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Website: <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://giovannaphotography.com/">https://giovannaphotography.com</a></strong></span></span></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Instagram: <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>@giovannaphotography</strong></span></span></span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Çiğdem Gül is the founder of this „Intercultural Network For The Highly Gifted“. She is a Turkish woman of Turkmen origin with Persian roots and migrant in Germany, Graduate Economist at the University of Wuppertal, Intercultural Coach For The Highly Gifted, Multipotential and Highly Sensitive Persons and Journalist in Wuppertal, Germany.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">El encuentro de Lorenzo Gill con los Tikuna en el Amazonas: Eudocia &amp; Lorenzo Gill</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Cortesía de Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta / Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><span style="font-size: 36pt; color: #333333; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong><span style="font-size: 36pt;">Entrevista con el indígena Lorenzo Gill </span></strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><span style="font-size: 28pt;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #333333;"><strong>Lorenzo Gill</strong></span> </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Etnia Wiwa y Kogui en Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta / Colombia</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Director de la Fundación Wiwa</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Asesor de ONG </span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Se encuentra estudiando Sociología en la Universidad Externado de Colombia</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Lingüista, Poeta, Escritor, Ensayista </span></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><span style="font-size: 28pt;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #333333;"><strong>Çiğdem Gül</strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Fundadora de la “Red Intercultural de Superdotación&#8220; mundial</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Migrante turco en Alemania</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Economista </span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Consultora de Gestión del Cambio y Coach de Negocios para procesos de cambio en la empresa</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Periodista</span></strong></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">En Colombia existe mas de 100 pueblos indígenas auto reconocidos como perteneciente a algún grupo étnico, de las cuales, 65 aun conservan sus lenguas propias, algunas en vía de extinción por diferentes motivos, desde el desplazamiento forzado, guerras en los territorios o por la apropiación de la lengua castellana como primera lengua.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Lorenzo Gil Gill pertenece al grupo ético Wiwa, ubicado en la Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, norte de Colombia. Es ensayista, poeta, escritor, lingüista, asesor de ONG, realiza charlas sobre las culturas indígenas de su país y actualmente se encuentra estudiando Sociología en la Universidad Externado de Colombia.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: right;" align="right"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">31 de agosto de 2020</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;" align="right"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"><strong>LA ENTREVISTA </strong></span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Querido Lorenzo, muchas gracias por permitirme entrevistarle en el otro extremo del mundo, en Bogotá / Colombia, a pesar de la actual pandemia mundial de coronavirus. Me gustaría comenzar nuestra conversación con un par de preguntas generales:</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Una naturópata en Alemania, que también trata la medicina natural en países y culturas extranjeras, me dijo hace unos años que los indígenas de todo el mundo están conectados telepáticamente y pueden comunicarse entre sí por telepatía. Así es como sabrían dónde viven y están ubicados los otros pueblos indígenas. Incluso sabrían qué temas tratan los otros pueblos primitivos.</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Lorenzo, ¿qué sabe usted sobre este asunto? ¿Qué opina de ello?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Gracias por la entrevista. En el conocimiento indígena, todos los pueblos indígenas y todas las poblaciones en general, somos hermanos, por eso la expresión de los líderes de la Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta al referirse a ellos mismos como los “Hermanos Mayores” y “Hermanos Menores” para la civilización occidental. La referencia es que, para todas las poblaciones que no han perdido ese cordón umbilical con el planeta, siguen siendo los hermanos mayores, esa conexión espiritual, natural y armoniosa con el planeta, tanto en su práctica como en su conocimiento ancestral. En ese caso, los pueblos que aun permanecemos conectados a la madre tierra, nos entenderíamos perfectamente sobre muchos temas, no sé si específicamente mediante la telepatía, pero si mediante el planeta como fuente de conexión.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: ¿Podría describirme las peculiaridades de su cultura indígena?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">¿Qué idiomas y dialectos hablan los indígenas en Colombia?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill: </span></strong>Los pueblos indígenas de la Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta son pueblos hermanas que desceinden de la civilización Tayrona, ya extinta por la invasión española. Estos 4 pueblos indígenas son, Wiwa, Kogui, Arhuaco y Kankuamos. Laspeculiaridades de estaos pueblos es que, en su conocimiento ancestral, la Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta es el corazón del mundo. Hay un documental sobre este tema de la BBC Mundo: <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i81Et6tGrM&amp;t=34s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i81Et6tGrM&amp;t=34s</a></span></span> pueden buscar en inglés también.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Nuestra red lleva años comprometida con los derechos humanos, la paz, los superdotados, las culturas y las minorías en todo el mundo. Los pueblos indígenas ocupan un lugar particularmente importante en mi corazón. ¿Cómo funciona en Colombia cuando los pueblos indígenas de su tribu o de otra abogan en favor de la curación de la tierra, la paz y la cultura?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill: </span></strong></span>En la Nueva Constitución Política de Colombia en 1991, se reconoce por primera vez unos derechos a los pueblos indígenas, por el cual si hemos podido hacer uso de esos derechos para proteger nuestros sistema de conocimiento, prácticas, salud y demás. Hay documentales sobre los pueblos indígenas de la Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta que fomentan la armonía, respeto y volver a la espiritualidad con el planeta, ella es una mujer que da vida, por lo tanto, debe ser reconocida y se debe a aprender a convivir con ella.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Cortesía de Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta / Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> Conéctame con las cometas,</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> con la fase de la luna,</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> con los soles lejanos que como abuelos brillan en la inmensa oscuridad del olvido.</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> Conéctame con las montañas piramidales,</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> con la tierra que danza con el sol,</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> con las plantas que comen de las estrellas,</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> y yo que me reflejo de entre ellas</span></strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> Lorenzo Gill</span></strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">Lorenzo Gill &amp; Lina Marcela Arias © 2020 Cortesía de Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta / Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">Lorenzo Gill y su hermano en Machu Picchu, Cusco, Perú</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Cortesía de Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta / Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">El hermano de Lorenzo Gill y su familia</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Cortesía de Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta / Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">Por invitación especial de la Fundación VQTV y su amigo francés Amel Sawsen para dar una conferencia sobre la situación actual de los &#8222;pueblos indígenas de Colombia&#8220; en Cartagena de Indias</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Cortesía de Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta / Colombia)</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Hace seis años, cuando era docente, les mostré a mis alumnos una película documental muy conmovedora &#8222;Brasil en el ojo de los conquistadores&#8220; (&#8222;Brasilien im Blick der Eroberer&#8220;) de Luis Miranda, que también fue emitida en Europa en 2011 por la conocida cadena de televisión alemana-francesa ARTE. El documental da voz a los descendientes de los pueblos indígenas y permite ver las consecuencias de la colonización desde el punto de vista de los indígenas en Brasil. Me gustaría saber qué piensa, qué siente y cuál es su opinión al respecto. ¿Cree que ocurre lo mismo en Colombia? Si es así, ¿cuál cree que es el motivo por el que se intenta quitar ese espacio vital a estos pueblos? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Las consecuencias de la invasión europea es gravísima, en la actualidad no hay datos exactos de cuántos pueblos indígenas fueron exterminado en la época de la conquista, pero las cifras van desde 40 a 90 millones de personas. En el libro “La Otra Historia de los Estados Unidos” del autor Howard Zinn refleja ese proceso de extinción, sometimiento religioso, imposición ideológica hasta la esclavización. Estas consecuencias aún perduran en la actualidad, ya que la discrciminación, la exclusión, persecución religiosa y el desconocimiento indígena aún es desvalorizado. Es una consecuencia que si no se generan cambios, ayudará a exterminar todos los pueblos indígenas de América y en el mundo. </span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: ¿Cómo superar los conflictos los miembros de su tribu y usted mismo dentro del entorno tribal? ¿Y los conflictos fuera de la comunidad tribal? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Tenemos nuestro sistema de justicia, este no tiene que ser el mismo del Estado, por ello, nuestra justicia es más pedagógica y preventiva. Por ello, sabemos que cometer error es una forma de conocer nuestra realidad, de tal forma que la aplicación de nuestra justicia tiene una relación con el territorio, la responsabilidad social y cultural. Ninguna sociedad está exenta de cometer errores, delitos, o fenómenos fuera de la regla social, por ello, cada comunidad tiene su propio sistema de justicia según sus usos y costumbres.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: ¿Existen rituales comunes entre los pueblos indígenas que se viven de manera diferente dentro de la tribu, pero se basan en el mismo trasfondo espiritual? ¿Qué rituales se viven en su comunidad tribal y cómo?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Respetar y reconocer a la naturaleza como un ente vivo en el que, como humanos tenemos que tener reconocerla, respetarla, convivir con ella, de esa forma se generan diferentes ritualidades en diferentes comunidades, pero la relación con la naturaleza es la misma. Los pueblos indígenas de Amazonas han desarrollado la medicina tradicional, como medio de conexión con la madre tierra, esa práctica se llama “Yajé”. Para los pueblos indígenas de la Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, más bien es a través de reconocerla por medio de “pagamentos”, este documental pueden verlo más: <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpiiCKbddMU&amp;t=" target="_blank">Por qué pagamos espiritualmente?</a> </span></span></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Yajé: <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNfUOMbgwLI" target="_blank">¿QUÉ ES REALMENTE LA AYAHUASCA?</a> </span></span></span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: ¿Qué creencia tiene su tribu indígena? ¿Me puede contar al respecto?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Creen en la madre tierra, en la naturaleza como un organismo vivo que direcciona y organiza, la naturaleza tiene historia, tiene conflictos, tiene necesidades y nuestra tarea es aprender a convivir con ella. </span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: ¿Podría decirme cómo podría imaginar su vida como indígena en la reserva en Colombia, pero en Europa?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Europa para mi es pensamiento y el razonamiento, pero le falta mucho desarrollar la espiritualidad, empatía con el planeta, la naturaleza. Podría ir a Europa conocer más.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: ¿Cómo protegen ustedes su identidad tribal indígena, su historia, tradición, creencias y cultura? ¿Y cómo se transmiten ese conocimiento propio y culturalmente tan distinto dentro de la comunidad tribal? Por favor, cuénteme un ejemplo.</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Por tradición, todos los integrantes de mi comunidad, deben transmitir la lengua materna, a través de ella, los conocimientos ancestrales, la historia y la identidad. Fomentar la importancia de la lengua indígena, las tradiciones y los principios de ser indígena, ese legado del cuidado de la madre tierra por medio de conocimientos milenarios.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: ¿Cuál es la importancia de las joyas de la cabeza y el cuerpo y ciertas prendas de vestir para los pueblos indígenas? ¿Representan, por ejemplo, un símbolo estético, de jerarquía o de felicidad?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">¿Es cierto que cuanto más decorado esté un miembro de la tribu, más acceso tiene a poderes superiores?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> En mi comunidad no usamos muchos accesorios, pero los antiguos Tayronas si, se vestían de Oro porque representaban al Sol, el sol da vida, da energía, alimento, por ello el líder debe ser como el sol, en la actualidad ya no tenemos oro, en la época de la invasión española se llevaron todo nuestro oro. En la actualidad, solo nos vestimos de blanco.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: ¿Cómo afecta a vuestra vida la comunicación con los animales y las plantas? </span></strong></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> No hablamos con los animales, porque concebimos que el lenguaje de la naturaleza es diferente, pero si se comunican con nosotros a través de señales y convivencia con ella. Los Mamos, nuestros líderes saben interpretar las señales, yo no soy Mamo.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: ¿Qué me puede contar acerca de cómo trabajan los curanderos y los ancianos de las tribus en su comunidad y en otras comunidades tribales indígenas? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Son médicos tradicionales, usan la “medicina viva”, las plantas tienen un poder cuando aún están vivos, pensamos que los medicamentos del mundo moderno no soluciona los verdaderos problemas, siempre deja daños colaterales y la medicina es para curar, no para dañar una parte del cuerpo para arreglar otra parte del cuerpo. Por eso la importancia de la medicina tradicional es muy importante.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">Picture by Andrea Granados © 2020 Cortesía de Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta / Colombia)</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Querido Lorenzo, ¿puede contarme algo sobre usted? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Soy indígena Wiwa, amo la poesía, leer, viajar y ayudar a otros pueblos indígenas. Estudio sociología y lingüística, aunque trabajo en educación para seguir fortaleciendo sobre los pueblos indígenas, para proteger de la discriminación, persecución, asesinatos y elvido del Estado. Espero viajar algún día a Italia y al oriente de Europa.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: ¿Cómo gestiona usted las diferencias entre su vida en la comunidad indígena en la tribu y su vida en la ciudad, incluida su vida estudiantil como futuro sociólogo, poeta, escritor y asesor de ONGs en la capital de Colombia? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> La esencia y la hermandad entre los seres humanos es que tenemos casi los mismos problemas, las mismas crisis y la violencia es una realidad. Lo que creo que hace que pueda estar en diferentes comunidades, grupos sociales y pueda comprender problemas de diferentes niveles y escalas. </span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Hasta donde yo sé, no hay un término para &#8222;inteligencia&#8220; y &#8222;superdotado&#8220; en el idioma de los pueblos indígenas colombianos. ¿Cómo se describen estos términos? ¿Qué papel juegan estos temas en su comunidad tribal?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> No hay palabras exactas en las lenguas indígenas. Quizás, la inteligencia pueda ser medido de cuánto y cómo te adaptes, crear armonía entre los seres humanos y la naturaleza. El que crea soluciones para ese proceso humano y natural, quizás se le pueda considerar superdotado. Hay que saber si podría sugerir que la palabra sabio si existe, es cuando alguien es inteligente pero administra su conocimiento sabiamente. </span></p>
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<p>Con esta entrevista cumpliste un sueño para mí, obtener información de primera mano sobre los pueblos indígenas en Colombia. Gracias por la entrevista.</span></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px; color: #0000ff;"><strong>Lorenzo Gill</strong> (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta / Colombia)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Datos de contacto:</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Web:</strong> https://lorenzogill.wordpress.com </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Correo electrónico:</strong> lorenzo.gil.gil@gmail.com </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong> YouTube: </strong>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqEqKeWltUI&amp;feature=emb_logo </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Facebook-Blog:</strong> www.facebook.com/lorenzo.gilgil </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Instagram: Fundación Wiwa:</strong> @wiwatravel </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Web:</strong> https://www.interkulturellhochbegabte.de </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Correo electrónico:</strong> info@interkulturellhochbegabte.de </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Marta Gómez-Monedero Pérez</span></strong> es traductora e intérprete profesional para las lenguas alemán, inglés y español. Con el español como lengua materna, Marta ofrece servicios lingüísticos a sus clientes con traducciones especializadas en derecho y técnica y los acompaña a congresos y reuniones de negocios. <span style="color: #0000ff;">Marta vive desde 2015 en Alemania y trabaja como autónoma desde la región alemana de Renania del Norte-Westfalia.</span></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Web:</strong> www.marta-gomez.com </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Correo electrónico:</strong> info@marta-gomez.com </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">Lorenzo Gill&#8217;s encounter with the Tikuna in the Amazon: Eudocia &amp; Lorenzo Gill<br />
© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><span style="font-size: 36pt; color: #333333; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong><span style="font-size: 36pt;">COLOMBIA: </span></strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><span style="font-size: 36pt; color: #333333; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong><span style="font-size: 36pt;">Interview with indigenous Lorenzo Gill</span></strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><span style="font-size: 28pt;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #333333;"><strong>Lorenzo Gill</strong></span> </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">He belongs to the Wiwa and Kogui ethnic group in Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta / Colombia</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Director of the Wiwa Foundation</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">NGO advisor</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">He studies Sociology at the Externado de Colombia University</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Linguist, Poet, Writer, Essayist</span></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><span style="font-size: 28pt;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #333333;"><strong>Çiğdem Gül</strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">The founder of the worldwide “Intercultural Network For The Highly Gifted&#8220; </span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Turkish- based migrant living in Germany</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">A big fan of First Nations People</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Economist</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Change Management Consultant &amp; Business Coach for change processes in the company</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Journalist &amp; Essayist</span></strong></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">In Colombia there are more than 100 indigenous peoples self-recognized as belonging to an ethnic group, of which 65 still retain their own languages, some on the way to extinction for different reasons, from forced displacement, wars in the territories or due to appropriation of the Castilian language as the first language.</span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Lorenzo Gill belongs to the Wiwa ethical group, located in the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, northern Colombia. He is an essayist, poet, writer, linguist, NGO advisor, gives lectures on the indigenous cultures of his country and he studies Sociology at the Externado de Colombia University.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;" align="right"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"><strong>INTERVIEW </strong></span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Dear Lorenzo, I am very happy that despite the current global coronavirus pandemic you enable me to conduct an interview with you while you are at the other end of the world &#8212; in Bogotá / Colombia.</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">I would like to start our conversation with general questions:</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">A female non-medical healing practitioner in Germany, who also deals with medicine in distant countries and cultures, told me a few years ago that indigenous people around the world are telepathically connected and can communicate telepathically with one another. They would also know where the other indigenous tribes are geographically located and where they live. They would even know what topics the other indigenous people are dealing with. </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Lorenzo, do you have any experiences with such cases? What is your attitute towards this statement?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Thank you for the interview. In indigenous knowledge, indigenous people and population consider themselves as brothers. That is why the leaders of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta refer to themselves as the &#8222;Hermanos Mayores&#8220; (Big brothers) and &#8222;Hermanos Menores&#8220; (Young brothers) for Western civilization. The idea is that, in the population groups that have not lost that umbilical cord with the planet, these leaders continue to be the Big Brothers. In other words, they are that spiritual, natural and harmonious connection with the planet, both in their praxis and in their ancestral knowledge. As a result, people who remain connected to Mother Earth are able to understand each other perfectly on many areas. I do not know if this happens through telepathy specifically, but through the planet as the source of the connection itself.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Would you please describe the characteristics of your indigenous culture?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">What languages and dialects do the indigenous people of Colombia speak?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> The indigenous people of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta are brother communities that descended from the Tayrona civilisation, which was extinct after the Spanish invasion. These 4 indigenous groups are Wiwa, Kogui, Arhuaco and Kankuamos. The special feature of these people is that, in their ancestral knowledge, the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta is the heart of the world. There is a documentary on this subject by the BBC World: <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i81Et6tGrM&amp;t=34s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i81Et6tGrM&amp;t=34s</a></span></span> and you can watch it in English too.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Our „Intercultural Network For The Highly Gifted“ focuses on human rights, peace, the gifted, cultures and minorities worldwide for years. The indigenous people are particularly close to my heart. How does it look in practice when indigenous people from your or another tribe practice the healing </span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">of the earth, peace and culture? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> In the new Political Constitution of Colombia from 1991, the indigenous people&#8216; s rights are recognized for the first time. Thank to this, this we have been able to use these rights to protect our knowledge system, practices, health and so on. There are documentaries about the indigenous people of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta that promote harmony, respect and a return to spirituality with the planet. The Earth is a life-giving woman, so it must be recognised as such and we must learn to live with it.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> Conéctame con las cometas,</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> con la fase de la luna,</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> con los soles lejanos que como abuelos brillan en la inmensa oscuridad del olvido.</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> Conéctame con las montañas piramidales,</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> con la tierra que danza con el sol,</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> con las plantas que comen de las estrellas,</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> y yo que me reflejo de entre ellas</span></strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"> Lorenzo Gill</span></strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">Lorenzo Gill &amp; Lina Marcela Arias © 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">Lorenzo Gill and his brother Machu Picchu in Cusco, Peru. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">Lorenzo Gill´s brother Machu Picchu and his family.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">At the special invitation of the VQTV Foundation and his French friend Mrs. Amel Sawsen, Lorenzo Gill gave a lecture on the current situation of the &#8222;indigenous peoples of Colombia&#8220; in Cartagena.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Six years ago, as a lecturer at the time, I showed my students a moving documentary film “Brazil in the View of the Conquerors” by Luis Miranda, which was also broadcasted on the well-known French-German TV channel ARTE in Europe in 2011. The documentation enables the descendants of the indigenous people have their say and describe the events of colonization in Brazil from an indigenous perspective. In this context, I am interested in your thoughts, feelings and opinions, whether, and if so, how and why your living space in Colombia is being threatened? It is being tried to be occupied and by whom?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> The consequences of the European invasion are extremely serious. There are currently no exact figures on how many indigenous people were exterminated at the time of the conquest, but the figures range from 40 to 90 million people. In Howard Zinn&#8217;s book &#8222;A People&#8217;s History of the United States&#8220; he reflects this process of extinction, religious submission, ideological imposition and enslavement. If no changes are made, the consequences will exterminate all the indigenous people of the Americas and in the world. </span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: How do the members of your tribe and you cope with the historic conflicts in your tribal contexts and the conflicts outside of your tribal community? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> We have our own justice system, which does not have to be the same as that of the State. Our justice is more pedagogical and preventive. We know that making a mistake is a way of knowing our reality, and that us why the application of our justice is related to the territory, social and cultural responsibility. No society is exempt from committing errors, crimes or phenomena outside the social norm. Thus, each community has its own system of justice according to its customs.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Do the indigenous peoples have common rituals that are lived differently locally, but are based on the same spiritual background? Which rituals are lived and how in your tribal community? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Respecting and recognizing nature as a living entity is very important. As humans we must recognize it, respect it, live with it. That is how different rituals are performed in different communities. But the relationship with nature is the same. The indigenous populations of the Amazon have developed traditional medicine as a way of connecting with Mother Earth. This practice is called &#8222;Yajé&#8220;. For the indigenous villages of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, it is a matter of recognising it by means of &#8222;pagamentos&#8220;. These documentaries explain this in depth: <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpiiCKbddMU&amp;t=" target="_blank">Por qué pagamos espiritualmente?</a> </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Yajé: <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNfUOMbgwLI" target="_blank">¿QUÉ ES REALMENTE LA AYAHUASCA?</a> </span></span></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">Ade Mamo Ramon Gil, Wiwa community leader and manager of several villages in the Sierra Nevada</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: What is the belief of your indigenous tribal community? Can you please tell me about it? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> We believe in Mother Earth, in nature as a living organism that directs and organizes. Nature has a history, it has conflicts, it has needs and our task is to learn to live with it.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Would you please be so kind and give someone like me, as an European an insight to your life as an indigenous person in the reserve of Colombia and the origins of your indigenous people? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Europe for me is thought and reasoning, but it lacks much development of spirituality, empathy with the planet and the nature. I could go to Europe to learn more.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: How do you protect your indigenous tribal identity, history, tradition, beliefs and culture? And how is internal, culturally differentiated knowledge passed on within the tribal community? Please give me an example of this. </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> Traditionally, all members of my community must transmit the mother tongue, through which the ancestral knowledge, history and identity are also transmitted. Promoting the importance of the indigenous language, the traditions and the principles of being indigenous is part of the legacy of caring for Mother Earth through ancient knowledge.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: What is the significance of head and body decorations and certain clothing for you indigenous people? Are they e. g. a sign of aesthetics or hierarchy or vitality?</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Is it that the more one is adorned with these head and body decorations, the more one has access to higher powers? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> In my community we do not use many accessories, but the ancient Tayrona did, they dressed in gold because they represented the Sun. The sun gives life, energy and nourishment and therefore the leader must resemble the sun. Today we no longer wear any gold. At the time of the Spanish invasion all our gold was taken. Nowadays, we only wear white.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">© 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: How does flow your communication with animals and plants into your life? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;">What is the effect of communicating with them? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> We don&#8217;t talk with the animals, but we understand that the language of nature is different. They do communicate with us through signs and coexistence with nature. I am not a Mamo.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: What can you say about how the healers, medicine men and tribal elders work in your and other indigenous tribal communities? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> They are traditional doctors who use &#8222;living medicine&#8220;. Plants have a power when they are still alive. We think that the medicines of the modern world do not solve the real problems and always leave collateral damage. Medicine is for healing, not for damaging one part of the body while fixing another part of the body. That is why the traditional medicine is so important.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 14px;">Picture by Andrea Granados © 2020 Courtesy of Lorenzo Gill (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Dear Lorenzo, can you please tell us something about yourself? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> I am an indigenous Wiwa, I love poetry, reading, travelling and helping other indigenous people. I study sociology and linguistics, although I work on education to further strengthen the position of indigenous people, to protect them from discrimination, persecution, murder and the oblivion of the State. I hope to travel to Italy and Eastern Europe one day.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: How do you manage to balance your life between the indigenous tribal on the country side and your city life? Including your life as a student as a budding sociologist, poet and writer life as well as a NGO consultant &#8211; in the capital of Colombia.</span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> The essence and the brotherhood between human beings make me realise that we all have almost the same problems and the same crises. Violence is a reality. All this makes it possible for me to be in different communities, social groups and to understand problems of different levels and scales. </span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: As far as I know there is no term for intelligence and giftedness in the language of the indigenous people in Colombia. How do you describe these terms? What role do these issues play in your tribal community? </span></strong></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Lorenzo Gill:</span></strong> There are no exact words in indigenous languages. Perhaps, intelligence can be measured in relation to how much and how you can adapt: it is the ability to create harmony between human beings and nature. Whoever the gifted people find solutions for the humans and natural process. We can say that the word “wise” does exist: it is when someone is intelligent and able to manage his/her knowledge wisely. </span></p>
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<p align="left"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"> Çiğdem Gül: Dear Lorenzo, with this interview, you fulfilled a dream for me, to obtain first-hand information about indigenous peoples in Colombia. Thank you for the interview. </span></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px; color: #0000ff;"><strong>Lorenzo Gill</strong> (Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta/Colombia)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Contact details:</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Website:</strong> https://lorenzogill.wordpress.com </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Email address:</strong> lorenzo.gil.gil@gmail.com </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong> YouTube: </strong>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqEqKeWltUI&amp;feature=emb_logo </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Facebook-Blog:</strong> www.facebook.com/lorenzo.gilgil </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Instagram: Fundación Wiwa:</strong> @wiwatravel</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Contact details:</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Web:</strong> https://www.interkulturellhochbegabte.de </span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-family: roboto,verdana,arial,helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Email address:</strong> info@interkulturellhochbegabte.de </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Lorenzo Gill´s Spanish answers in the interview were translated into English by Marta Gómez-Monedero Pérez.</span></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Marta Gómez-Monedero Pérez</span></strong>is a graduate translator and interpreter for the language combination German, English and Spanish. With Spanish as her mother tongue, Marta supports Intercultural Network For The Highly Gifted and her customers with technical translations in the area of law and technology and accompanies them at trade fairs and negotiations. She has been living in Germany since 2015 and works as a self-employed person based in North Rhine-Westphalia.</span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;">Contact details:</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>Internet:</strong> www.marta-gomez.com </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: roboto, verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 16px;"><strong>E-Mail address:</strong> info@marta-gomez.com </span></p>
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